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because of immigration reform. fast and furious, not extending bush tax cuts, dream act, war in libya, gun control, benghazi. and quote, all the czars he's appointed. it's amazing. >> it's amazing that the kitchen sink isn't in there. >> i didn't get to it. >> maybe it is. maybe we haven't looked closely enough. i think ryan grim is right about this. this has never truly been about any of these issues. this is about nullification of this president. nullification of any of his agenda that's enacted including the affordable care act. it's never been about providing a health care to millions of uninsured americans. if that were true, americans would have come up with a counterplan. with a set of provisions they knew could provide insurance to people they knew needed health care. this isn't about that. if this was about benghazi, we would have been talking about bush lying his way into wars where thousands of our service members died. this is not about that. this is about delegitimatizing this president. and the second
because of immigration reform. fast and furious, not extending bush tax cuts, dream act, war in libya, gun control, benghazi. and quote, all the czars he's appointed. it's amazing. >> it's amazing that the kitchen sink isn't in there. >> i didn't get to it. >> maybe it is. maybe we haven't looked closely enough. i think ryan grim is right about this. this has never truly been about any of these issues. this is about nullification of this president. nullification of any of his...
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immigrants are people too. corporations are not. university of texas professor victoria soto, thanks for your time. >> take care. >> coming up, there are new reports that pope francis has a big secret, one other than the fact that he once worked as a nightclub bouncer. we have a look at what else the pontiff may be up to after dark just ahead. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone. there's not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male an
immigrants are people too. corporations are not. university of texas professor victoria soto, thanks for your time. >> take care. >> coming up, there are new reports that pope francis has a big secret, one other than the fact that he once worked as a nightclub bouncer. we have a look at what else the pontiff may be up to after dark just ahead. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open...
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. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd deadline. and just announced, this thursday the president will sit down with chris matthews at american university. the interview will air right here on msnbc's "hardball" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. again, that's thursday, december 5th. >>> and it appears to be the right time for a new pr campaign, considering that the website is doing better. a senior administration official says 750,000 people visited the site yesterday, and enrollment numbers obtained by nbc news show more than 100,000 signed up in november. let me bring in our company, molly ball, national political reporter for the atlantic, r
. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd...
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like immigration, like a lot of things in implementing fully obama care? >> to me there's an interesting thing here of what comes between those two points. if you look at the speech he gave on economic justice wednesday, clearly the president has big ideas, has a big agenda. he's not done with that. these are things he's discussed from the very beginning since he began running in 2007. to me what was interesting in watching your interview yesterday was when he talked about republicans. it's not he's completely resigned to the obstructionism, that they've presented, but i didn't get a sense of a lot of fight. he talked about being persistent. but i think if he wants to rally those segments of the electorate that robert just talked about, he has to be concrete in what he's asking people to rally behind. take some of these grand ideas that he talked about on wednesday that he's talked about before whether it's raising the minimum wage, expanding head start to get investment going. whatever he talked about, he has more credibility now with these new employment
like immigration, like a lot of things in implementing fully obama care? >> to me there's an interesting thing here of what comes between those two points. if you look at the speech he gave on economic justice wednesday, clearly the president has big ideas, has a big agenda. he's not done with that. these are things he's discussed from the very beginning since he began running in 2007. to me what was interesting in watching your interview yesterday was when he talked about republicans....
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basis, immigration reform. it's obviously not enough. we need comprehensive immigration reform. i can tell you that my own 24-hour fast reminded me of the struggles of my grandfather, who came to this country as an 18-year-old in 1916. there were laws against his naturalization. there were laws against him buying land. but because of his hard work, i am a united states congressman. but, you know, eliseo pointed to the moral and spiritual dimensions of this crisis with comprehensive immigration reform not being passed, but we need to pass it because not only will it make us feel better as americans, but we'll be better off as a country economically. you know, we'll add -- we'll add a growth rate from 4.5% to 6.1%, a huge jump. 6.1% in our growth -- our gross domestic product if we pass comprehensive immigration reform. that's a huge jump in growth and it's also huge gain for america's workers. >> eliseo, what else do you think can be done? i'm wondering what you think about how the president has responded to all
basis, immigration reform. it's obviously not enough. we need comprehensive immigration reform. i can tell you that my own 24-hour fast reminded me of the struggles of my grandfather, who came to this country as an 18-year-old in 1916. there were laws against his naturalization. there were laws against him buying land. but because of his hard work, i am a united states congressman. but, you know, eliseo pointed to the moral and spiritual dimensions of this crisis with comprehensive immigration...
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if we could get something done on immigration, that would be awesome. if we could lift the sequester and put forth a budget that could get people back to work, that would be good. i'm not cynical -- >> i'm not cynical either, in this universe in which we live, you and some of your colleagues have an idea for something the president could actually do by himself to increase wages for working people. what is that? >> well, you know, there are about 2 million workers who work for federal contractors. these contractors pay people sub standard wage, $7.45, no benefits, people have been on these jobs for literally years, and an executive order could solve this problem, and so we wrote a letter to the president about two months ago asking him to do something about it. and i gave another letter today. and you know, i think he is not sincere. he gave a wonderful speech about income inequality today. and he urged congress to raise the minimum wage, but in this congress i think we're going to have to look at what the executive can do and doing something with these
if we could get something done on immigration, that would be awesome. if we could lift the sequester and put forth a budget that could get people back to work, that would be good. i'm not cynical -- >> i'm not cynical either, in this universe in which we live, you and some of your colleagues have an idea for something the president could actually do by himself to increase wages for working people. what is that? >> well, you know, there are about 2 million workers who work for...
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immigration, minimum wage, voting rights. these are the things that they ought to be focusing on rather than this continual litany of over the top announcements of the president's political death. i think they're premature, and i think they waste the country's time. >>> ahead, a mother of three is sentenced to 20 years for a warning shot. tonight a major development in the marissa alexander case that you will want to hear. [ male announcer ] did you know that if you wear a partial, you're almost twice as likely to lose your supporting teeth? try poligrip for partials. poligrip helps minimize stress which may damage supporting teeth by stabilizing your partial. care for your partial. help protect your natural teeth. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ >>> we're back with a positive development in the case we've been following out of florida. marissa alexander was serving 20 years i
immigration, minimum wage, voting rights. these are the things that they ought to be focusing on rather than this continual litany of over the top announcements of the president's political death. i think they're premature, and i think they waste the country's time. >>> ahead, a mother of three is sentenced to 20 years for a warning shot. tonight a major development in the marissa alexander case that you will want to hear. [ male announcer ] did you know that if you wear a partial,...
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you see the push by families and organizational groups for immigration reform. how is there the a path to 218 in the house where you see statistics like that when so many gop members see this as a bad issue for them individually, and it could be good for the party in the long term? >> well, i think whether it's 12% or 3%, this is an issue which has united the people of america in ways i've never seen before. i worked on immigration reform with senator mccain and with senator kennedy back in 2005 and '06 and president bush. here we have a circumstance where you have the faith community, the evangelical community, along with the chamber of commerce and local chamber of commerce. you have republicans and democrats who want to get this thing done. so i think the continuing voices and pressure on republicans is a necessity and i think it will happen. in my home state of colorado, there are four members of the house of representatives who are republican and i have been calling on them to simply walk down the hool way, go to speaker boehner's door and let him know they
you see the push by families and organizational groups for immigration reform. how is there the a path to 218 in the house where you see statistics like that when so many gop members see this as a bad issue for them individually, and it could be good for the party in the long term? >> well, i think whether it's 12% or 3%, this is an issue which has united the people of america in ways i've never seen before. i worked on immigration reform with senator mccain and with senator kennedy back...
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and obviously, he was an incredible friend and spoken here about immigration. and so i just always have a wonderful interaction with the young people here. they're doing a great job. >> well, let's play "hardball." >> let's do it. >> you have a great audience here of college-age people and graduate students and faculty. there is resistance there, seen it in polls to enrolling in the exchanges and to get involved in taking responsibility for their health care. what's your argument why they should do that. >> first of all, i understand why people would have been resistant to go on a website that wasn't working right. and fortunately, because of some very hard work, we have now got it to the point where for the vast majority of people, it's working well. and my message to young people is take a look for yourself. the truth is that most college-age students, because of the law, can stay on their parents' plan. and that may be the best deal for them. we have already insured about 3 million people. ask your first job where you don't have full health insurance benefit
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so if comprehensive immigration reform, thomas, you and i take any bill on comprehensive immigration. part is border security, the dream act, ag workers, future flows for the high tech industry and a pathway to legalization. so immigration reform is clearly -- you can clearly divide it up because there are different components that make up the package. look, as long as in the end none of the parts causes me any acid indigestion or illness, i say let's serve it in parts an pieces. the important thing is to get it done. the president of the united states has wisely said let's get it done that way so i can get a bill to sign. >> let's talk about the president, though, because you have an op-ed today. you take issue with republicans blocking reform but you also seem to take issue with the president and take him to task on the number of deportations under his watch. in part you write these undocumented youth are american in every sense of the word, including the confidence with which they speak their minds. but they don't have papers. you cannot go anywhere without hearing about the devast
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she has eligible immigrant work status. on the day she started working there they came for her mom and brother. now she is having to leave her job. she is returning home to arizona now to help fight her mother's deportation. in a letter sent to her colleagues, she says the politically-charged immigration debate has always been personal for me and, and, in many ways, my life symbolizes the most controversial flashpoints of the debate. i have lost members of my community and family to deportations. i was awarded deferred action, and jan brewer took away my right to a drivers license. family separation by deportation. erica's mother's case is expected to come up for we view just after the new year in j january. it will decide whether or not she is allow todd stay in this country with her kids. joining us now is erica who is cofounder of the arizona dream act coalition and a former outreach director for arizona senator kristin sinema. >> can you tell me about this decision to leave the job at the congresswoman's office and head
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immigration is one of them, contraception. we can go down the list. >> i think if you're a politician running in 2014, the key is don't be part of washington. chris christie ran a great campaign because he did not think about the republican model or obama, he bashed everyone and i think those are the candidates who will do well next year. a democrat who says i'm not with obama and i'm also opposed to the tea party. that's the key, to stay away from either party because neither party is popular right now. >> i still think this is sort of what this whole distrust of government, disillusionment, it's going to have this huge impact that i don't think we quite understand and it's going to take us a yore to figure it out or more. anyway, thank you all. >>> coming up, my monday takeaway. some of the hillary clinton shadow campaign developments that you may have missed while you were in that turkey-induced coma. >>> first, white house soup of the day. at my house it's still turkey chili for a second day in a row. at the white house it
immigration is one of them, contraception. we can go down the list. >> i think if you're a politician running in 2014, the key is don't be part of washington. chris christie ran a great campaign because he did not think about the republican model or obama, he bashed everyone and i think those are the candidates who will do well next year. a democrat who says i'm not with obama and i'm also opposed to the tea party. that's the key, to stay away from either party because neither party is...
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activists were fasting for immigration reform. the fast for families began on november 12th and has received support from the highest democratic leaders in the country including the president and first lady. joining us from washington, d.c., where he just ended his fast is executive director of dream director, phillip agnew. nice to have you. >> thanks for having me. good morning. >> so start by telling me about what the fast for families movement is and what it hopes to achieve. >> yeah so, for 26 days fasters have been on the capitol, at the capitol, in a tent, pushing lawmakers to do something, to make a move on immigration reform. there's no food. there's just water. and it's a wide group of people determined to stand in solidarity to deny those basic needs to ourselves so that other people can have a pathway to citizenship in a country that says that it's the land of opportunity for all people. >> phillip, the use of fasting and of hunger strikes to bring about policy change is one that has a deep, even international traditio
activists were fasting for immigration reform. the fast for families began on november 12th and has received support from the highest democratic leaders in the country including the president and first lady. joining us from washington, d.c., where he just ended his fast is executive director of dream director, phillip agnew. nice to have you. >> thanks for having me. good morning. >> so start by telling me about what the fast for families movement is and what it hopes to achieve....
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on the immigration issue, obviously, the pressure on this from immigration reform advocates is not the sort of thing that gets a lot of credit in the beltway, but i think it's very emotionally compelling stuff that they've been doing, including a lot of personal pressure on leaders like john boehner. and john boehner says he wants to find a way to do immigration reform. he had had this demand that it couldn't be comprehensive, it had to be piecemeal. democrats now agree to that. do you have any sense for whether he's just blowing smoke or whether he does actually expect that to happen? >> i think he'd rather see it happen than not happen, but i don't think it's a huge deal to him. you can sort of take it or leave it. come january, and increasingly in february and march, a lot of the key filing deadlines for tea party challengers to get on the ballot pass, so that means you're going to have a lot of house republicans who up until now have been unwilling to do anything on immigration because they don't want to draw a primary challenger, but very soon, it will be impossible for there to b
on the immigration issue, obviously, the pressure on this from immigration reform advocates is not the sort of thing that gets a lot of credit in the beltway, but i think it's very emotionally compelling stuff that they've been doing, including a lot of personal pressure on leaders like john boehner. and john boehner says he wants to find a way to do immigration reform. he had had this demand that it couldn't be comprehensive, it had to be piecemeal. democrats now agree to that. do you have any...
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unless they're on a fast, like those who are fighting for comprehensive immigration. that's a protest. but let me tell you what happens when you don't feed children. in any country, including the united states of america, and it was a catholic priest, father cunningham that taught me this. children get angry. hunger brings about anger. this time is about salvation. you're the minister, but i learned in sunday school, god gave his only son so that we could all be saved. >> right, well, we ought to be angry about children hungry. not only are hungry children angry, we ought to be angry about that. but bill, let me tell you this, not only have those of us who are considered progressive been under attack. they're attacking the pope, now, for speaking up on issues like this. the pope. listen to what rush limbaugh had to say about the pope. >> the pope is ripping america. the pope is ripping capitalism. the pope ripping trickle down economics. and obama's having an orgasm. i tell you the way he means that. we've got too many rich people. we need more people who are poor and
unless they're on a fast, like those who are fighting for comprehensive immigration. that's a protest. but let me tell you what happens when you don't feed children. in any country, including the united states of america, and it was a catholic priest, father cunningham that taught me this. children get angry. hunger brings about anger. this time is about salvation. you're the minister, but i learned in sunday school, god gave his only son so that we could all be saved. >> right, well, we...
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i'm going to vote in the mid terms out of my own self interest, whether it's immigration, minimum wage, what have you. they really could have a problem. they've got to develop a positive agenda for themselves. the same time, the democrats will have a problem if they can't figure out how to nationalize 2014. in the past, they've run for cover in mid terms. >> right. >> every man and woman for himself or herself. >> they don't seem to be doing that now, though. >> national referendum on these issues. if they do, they have an outside chance of getting the house back. >> okay. well thank you so much, jonathan altar. and michael steele. we appreciate both of you. >> thanks. >>> and we are waiting for -- we are awaiting a press conference with the ntsb on the deadly metro north train derailment the, which is beginning right now. let's take a listen to what they are saying. >> this is preliminary information from the event recorders shows that the train was traveling at approximately 82 miles per hour as it went into a 30-mile-an-hour curve. that speed again was 82 miles per hour. at the entr
i'm going to vote in the mid terms out of my own self interest, whether it's immigration, minimum wage, what have you. they really could have a problem. they've got to develop a positive agenda for themselves. the same time, the democrats will have a problem if they can't figure out how to nationalize 2014. in the past, they've run for cover in mid terms. >> right. >> every man and woman for himself or herself. >> they don't seem to be doing that now, though. >> national...
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okay, flip-flops on immigration. because he knows if he wants to run for president there's no way in hell he can win the primary vote. >> you're being confused by governor christie versus his mind as candidate christie. he knows he has trouble winning a republican primary, a presidential primary, if he has supported the dream act. >> here's the thing. just look at the data. don't even take it from me. i know. i'm a progressive. i'm a democrat. from 2005, 2006, what happened? the republicans lost the latino vote because they were flip-flopping on things they were -- they promised that they would do. does he think that the latino community is going to forget that he said, i promise i'm going to do this and then said, oh, i don't favor the senate version? >> again, i would say you're being confused by primary presidential candidate chris christie versus potentially general election presidential candidate chris christie. the first thing you have to do to become that primary -- that nominee of the republican party is to w
okay, flip-flops on immigration. because he knows if he wants to run for president there's no way in hell he can win the primary vote. >> you're being confused by governor christie versus his mind as candidate christie. he knows he has trouble winning a republican primary, a presidential primary, if he has supported the dream act. >> here's the thing. just look at the data. don't even take it from me. i know. i'm a progressive. i'm a democrat. from 2005, 2006, what happened? the...
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this is the best chance we've had in fair and just immigration reform. it's in your lap and doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and we're not going to let you off the hook. so yeah, we're disappointed there as well. >> let me touch on gay marriage. this week illinois is becoming the 16th state, including d.c., to allow same-sex marriage. do you think this is evolving in such a way that ultimately it will be legal everywhere, or is it the opposite, that there will be a backlash and the status quo will be maintained? >> i would be a pollyanna that there doesn't seem to be a stance of doing this. sometimes we've been caricatured as being anti-gay, and as much as we say we're pro marriage, we're not anti anybody. i don't know, when you have forces like politicians, when you have forces like some opinion molders that are behind it, it's a tough battle. i do think, though, to get back to your question, david, back in 1973 with roe v. wade, everyone said, this is a fargone conclusion. it's going to be back-burnered. to this day it remains probably the most divis
this is the best chance we've had in fair and just immigration reform. it's in your lap and doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and we're not going to let you off the hook. so yeah, we're disappointed there as well. >> let me touch on gay marriage. this week illinois is becoming the 16th state, including d.c., to allow same-sex marriage. do you think this is evolving in such a way that ultimately it will be legal everywhere, or is it the opposite, that there will be a backlash and the...
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they wouldn't negotiate on health care, immigration, anything. it makes me wonder, are they in relationships? like what is it like at home? you know, your wife disagrees with you -- >> nuke her. >> -- and you just nuke her! exactly. >> that will stop the argument. dean, welcome to the show. >> thanks. >> your thoughts about a guy who has obviously not lived through the cold war where we did avoid using nuclear weapons. he has not lived through discussions of what nuclear weapons do. and he acts like they're pea shooters like we'll just shoot about five or six people, blow up a couple items and that will be the end of it. nobody will ever notice we used nuclear weapons and might think i've got to get me one. your thoughts. >> he talks about it like he's ordering a side dish at a restaurant. like i'll take the french fries and the nuclear weapons. it's like the guy's in the republican caucus, yeah, nuclear weapon, that makes sense. he said it with no sense of hey, i'm going to say something really insane right now. he said it like it was an actual
they wouldn't negotiate on health care, immigration, anything. it makes me wonder, are they in relationships? like what is it like at home? you know, your wife disagrees with you -- >> nuke her. >> -- and you just nuke her! exactly. >> that will stop the argument. dean, welcome to the show. >> thanks. >> your thoughts about a guy who has obviously not lived through the cold war where we did avoid using nuclear weapons. he has not lived through discussions of what...
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obviously he was an incredible friend and spoke in here about immigration. so i just have a wonderful interaction with the young people here. they're doing a great job. >> let's play "hardball." >> let's do it. >> you have a college age group and faculty. you have young people taking responsibility for their health care. what's your argument why they should do that. >> first of all, i understand why people would be resistant to going on a website that wasn't working right. and fortunately because of some very hard work we've thousand got it to the point where for the vast majority of people it's working well. my message to the young people is take a look yourself. most college age students, because of the law can stay on their parents' plan, and that hey be the best deal for them. and we've already insured about 3 million people. and your first job where you don't have full health insurance benefits may mean that you stay on your parents' plan a little bit longer. but at some point, let's say when you turn 26, if you're between jobs or you've got a passion,
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a classic example is immigration reform. we have both democrats and republicans voting for a common sense bill that would strengthen our borders, fix the legal iimmn system, that would hold companies hiring in hiring undocumented workers and taking advantage of them. oh, by the way, we will deal with the 11 million people in the shadows right now. the majority of the american people think it's a good idea and republicans who think it's a good idea. the only thing that's stopping it at this point is what i mentioned earlier, a faction in the house republican party that is resistant. >> well, i think that there's so much focus on the politics of the base, and republicans being worried about getting challenged during the primary season that that inhibits a lot of cooperation that is there. and i actually think there's a bunch of republican who is want to get stuff done. they've got to be embarrassed. the truth of the matter is they've now been in charge of the house of representatives, one branch -- or one chamber in one branch
a classic example is immigration reform. we have both democrats and republicans voting for a common sense bill that would strengthen our borders, fix the legal iimmn system, that would hold companies hiring in hiring undocumented workers and taking advantage of them. oh, by the way, we will deal with the 11 million people in the shadows right now. the majority of the american people think it's a good idea and republicans who think it's a good idea. the only thing that's stopping it at this...
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obviously he was an incredible friend and spoken here about immigration and so i just always had a wonderful interaction here with the young people. >> let's play "hardball." you have graduate students here and faculty. there's a resistance among the young people to enrolling in the exchanges and getting involved in taking responsibility for their health care. what's your argument of why they should do that. >> first of all, i understand why people were resistant about going on a website that wasn't working right. fortunately, because of some very hard work, we've now got it to the point where for the vast majority of people it's working well. and my message to young people is, take a look for yourself. the truth is that most college-aged students, because of the law, can stay on their parents' plan and that may be the best deal for them and we've already insured three million people. and your first job where you don't have full health insurance benefits may mean that you stay on your parents' plan a little bit longer. but at some point, let's say when you turn 26, if you're between jobs or
obviously he was an incredible friend and spoken here about immigration and so i just always had a wonderful interaction here with the young people. >> let's play "hardball." you have graduate students here and faculty. there's a resistance among the young people to enrolling in the exchanges and getting involved in taking responsibility for their health care. what's your argument of why they should do that. >> first of all, i understand why people were resistant about...
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. >> if a president is ignoring entire categories of the law, whether it be immigration, marijuana, mandatory minimum, the aca, what is the remedy for the legislative branch. >> the next recourse, the word that we don't like to say. >> we've also talked about the i word, impeachment, which i don't think would get past the senate in the current climate. am i missing anything? is there anything else we can do? >> there's the guy. how, i think i'm watching buffalo bob and the peanut gallery. ip atoo old not to remember that stuff. but let me ask you this. that guy, let's not forget his providence. he was the guy on this show not too long ago who said i will not say the president was legitimately elected president. i gave him three shots at that baby, and he wouldn't do it. he's also illegitimate. i don't know if you can impeach a guy that was not there legitimately. >> and he is on record now saying that the house would vote to impeach this president if they were allowed to have this vote, and he said what else can we do? what's our remedy? well, there really isn't one. so they can have one of t
. >> if a president is ignoring entire categories of the law, whether it be immigration, marijuana, mandatory minimum, the aca, what is the remedy for the legislative branch. >> the next recourse, the word that we don't like to say. >> we've also talked about the i word, impeachment, which i don't think would get past the senate in the current climate. am i missing anything? is there anything else we can do? >> there's the guy. how, i think i'm watching buffalo bob and...
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rebecca talent comes from the bipartisan policy center's immigration task force. she was john mccain's chief of staff. she's worked on the hill in terms of immigration reform for a long time. she knows d.c.. she's a smart and sober voice, which signals to me that maybe john boehner is getting a little bit more serious about immigration reform than he's been in the past. >> yeah, i mean, i kind of feel like john boehner has been fairly serious about it to this point. >> he could have brought a bill to the floor at any time, and he hasn't. >> yeah, i just feel like he's working with a house -- with a minority of his house majority who have made things very difficult, as i'm sure you guys have talked about a lot. >> it comes up sometimes. >> yeah, yeah. so i think he has kind of tried to figure out how to do this in this last year without being kicked out of the speakership. he may or may not retire after, you know, the current term. so maybe he does make a harder push, you know, going with violating the haster rule to do something like this. and i think there is als
rebecca talent comes from the bipartisan policy center's immigration task force. she was john mccain's chief of staff. she's worked on the hill in terms of immigration reform for a long time. she knows d.c.. she's a smart and sober voice, which signals to me that maybe john boehner is getting a little bit more serious about immigration reform than he's been in the past. >> yeah, i mean, i kind of feel like john boehner has been fairly serious about it to this point. >> he could have...
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that speaks to the power issues around immigration and economics and others that the community care about. both the democrats and republicans need to pay close attention to that. there is a comprehensive bill spending in the congress right now that needs to be attended to and passed and we need to move forward. those are the issues that they care about. if the parties ignore that, they will do so to their detriment. >> i top the go to the issue of student debt. that is something that not unexpectedly is viewed as a huge problem. you have 57% say it's a major problem and 22% say a minor problem. that's something that democrats have really tried to pounce on and move and make it one of the signature issues. either the president is slipping a lot about it. michelle obama said there was a new resource for counsellors and mentors. what can republicans do to grab that issue and try to make it part of their own? >> whether it's this issue or education more broadly or health care, i'm a republican and we have to speak to that issue and address student concerns. we will have different solutions th
that speaks to the power issues around immigration and economics and others that the community care about. both the democrats and republicans need to pay close attention to that. there is a comprehensive bill spending in the congress right now that needs to be attended to and passed and we need to move forward. those are the issues that they care about. if the parties ignore that, they will do so to their detriment. >> i top the go to the issue of student debt. that is something that not...
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by not doing anything on comprehensive immigration reform, which is the big hall mark of the autopsy, they have turned off, generally speaking, latino voters to the republican party. if you look at some of the polls that came out before i believe latino voices did a poll that showed while folks would vote democratic, if you asked them if they were liberal or conservative latino were mostly conservative. republicans were leaving votes on the table. talking african-americans and latinos at the moment. you could add women, you could add young people, lesbian, gay, transgender, if the republican party wants to remain a minority party at the can tip to say no to all of those constituency. >> and jonathan capehart gets the last word. >> i'd snap. >> you did a verbal snap. >>> coming up breaking in the last hour a federal junlg ruled detroit eligible to file chapter 9 bankruptcy. we'll discuss motor city and pension problems when detroit's mayor dave bing joins us just ahead. across the country has brought me to the lovely city of boston. cheers. and seeing as it's such a historic city, i'm
by not doing anything on comprehensive immigration reform, which is the big hall mark of the autopsy, they have turned off, generally speaking, latino voters to the republican party. if you look at some of the polls that came out before i believe latino voices did a poll that showed while folks would vote democratic, if you asked them if they were liberal or conservative latino were mostly conservative. republicans were leaving votes on the table. talking african-americans and latinos at the...
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classic example is immigration reform. we know that the majority of the american people think the system's broken. we now have a vote out of the senate both democrats and republicans voting for a common sense bill that would strengthen our borders that would fix the system and make it easier for talent to come here and work hard and become part of america. and that would hold companies accountable when they're hiring undocumented workers and taking advantage of them. and by the way would deal with the 11 million people who are in the shadows right now. now, we've got a majority of the american people who think it's a good idea. and we've got a majority of the senate including republicans who think it's a good idea. the only thing that's stopping it at this point is what i mentioned earlier. a faction in the republican house party that is resistant. i continue to be optimistic we'll get it done. i think john boehner is sincere in getting it done. >> didn't he just say we won't do it in '14, today? >> well, i think that ther
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obama's unilaterally ignoring immigration laws in many cases. >> let me bring in democratic strategist keith boykin and republican strategist, season d -- susan del percio. let me play a little more. >> we also talked about the "i" word, impeachment, which again i don't think would get past the senate in the current climate. am i missing anything? >> maybe the implication there being, susan, that it would get through the house. what are they trying to accomplish? most of these members of congress, it's not like they're in some district where they're threatened. it's not going to happen. it's ridiculous from a legal perspective. so what are they doing? >> well, it's like 2007-2008 all over again. dennis kucinich, which could step in for that exotic member of congress that they refer to as a republican in today's story by dana milbank did the same exact thing. they had a list of 35 impeachable things they wanted to charge president obama with. the congress did sending it to the judiciary committee. here's what's important. nancy pelosi as speaker decided not to bring it forward because s
obama's unilaterally ignoring immigration laws in many cases. >> let me bring in democratic strategist keith boykin and republican strategist, season d -- susan del percio. let me play a little more. >> we also talked about the "i" word, impeachment, which again i don't think would get past the senate in the current climate. am i missing anything? >> maybe the implication there being, susan, that it would get through the house. what are they trying to accomplish?...
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. >> whether it be immigration, marijuana, mandatory minimum, what is the remedy tore the legislative branch? >> i think the president has decided, congress can't challenge me, can't control me. >> congress will be left like a line like a constitutional landscape. >> he will spend money if he decides to. >> thomas, this is our statement here. i'll read it to you. if you would like. >> he'll write regulations if he decides to. >> the growth and opportunity project. >> and he will defy the constitution if he decides to. >> that's simply not true. >> the american people that have to rise up. >> let's get right to our panel. joining us now, krystal ball, co host of "the cycle" and james peterson at lehigh university. oh, krystal. uber president. oh, krystal, krystal, uber president. i can a lot of liberals would be surprised to find out this president was practically a monarch. >> he has like super powers. if i was artistically talented, i think there is a comic book angle here that could be interesting. >> okay. could be. >> but this is part of a long-standing conservative narrative ever
. >> whether it be immigration, marijuana, mandatory minimum, what is the remedy tore the legislative branch? >> i think the president has decided, congress can't challenge me, can't control me. >> congress will be left like a line like a constitutional landscape. >> he will spend money if he decides to. >> thomas, this is our statement here. i'll read it to you. if you would like. >> he'll write regulations if he decides to. >> the growth and...
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heard the president talk about a lot of issues from income inequality to raising the minimum wage to immigration. what issues will be at the forefront of his agenda as we enter 2014? >> i think he would like to see something get done on minimum wage but i'm not sure much can get done. all eyes will turn to this budget deal between representsive ryan and murray to see if they can prevent another shutdown. >> thanks for your time as always, kevin. >> thanks for having me. >> this is "first look" on msnbc. stay with msnbc for more coverage of nelson mandela's death. "way too early" starts right now. >> i have challenan idea of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony. and -- and with equal opportunity. it is what i hope to live for and to achieve. but if need be it is for which i am prepared to die. >> nelson mandela, lived to see a free democracy in south africa. this morning, his passing at age 95 means different things to people in different generations, from starting out as a lawyer and man of action to political prisoner to symbol to historic leader, to an ic
heard the president talk about a lot of issues from income inequality to raising the minimum wage to immigration. what issues will be at the forefront of his agenda as we enter 2014? >> i think he would like to see something get done on minimum wage but i'm not sure much can get done. all eyes will turn to this budget deal between representsive ryan and murray to see if they can prevent another shutdown. >> thanks for your time as always, kevin. >> thanks for having me....
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. >> every day he comes face-to-face with dozens of immigrant women from all across asia. >> i didn't see your i.d.s. massage i.d.s. >> many he expects are servants in the underground sex trade afraid to talk. >> no customers. >> quick to notice tell tale signs that legitimate massage parlors from prostitution. >> from the outside of the fa l facili facility. double doors or locked gates and cameras on the outside of the facility so they can view the whole sidewalk. >> hi, health department. how is everybody? you walk into the facility, you'll find girls improperly dressed. you'll find a number of like high heels, lingerie and you'll find condoms, lubricants. >> does anybody sleep here? >> nobody goes home? >> another indicator of human trafficking is any evidence that women are actually living on the business premsis like fully-stocked kitchens, mattresses and drawers stuffed. >> what do you need all these clothes for? fancy massage. special massage. >> today inspector walsh is following up on a tip that sex is for sale on the premsis of this massage parlor in the city's mission dist
. >> every day he comes face-to-face with dozens of immigrant women from all across asia. >> i didn't see your i.d.s. massage i.d.s. >> many he expects are servants in the underground sex trade afraid to talk. >> no customers. >> quick to notice tell tale signs that legitimate massage parlors from prostitution. >> from the outside of the fa l facili facility. double doors or locked gates and cameras on the outside of the facility so they can view the whole...
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new jersey governor chris christie is forcefully denying that he's flipped his position on immigration. he ran his 2013 re-election campaign in support of legislation to provide instate tuition for young, undocumented students. the legislation commonly known as the dream act is about to be sent to his desk by the state legislature. but now, the governor says it goes too far and is refusing to sign it. on sunday, "the star ledger," new jersey's largest newspaper, accused christie of flip-flopping. the editorial board cited his 2016 presidential ambitions. >>> the republican-led house is expected to approve a ten-year extension today to an existing ban on plastic guns. these are weapons made from so-called 3d printers that go undetected by metal detectors. democrats say they'll back the plan, but some say they favor making that ban permanent. >>> washington, d.c.'s mayor could have a bumpy road towards re-election. embattled democrat vincent bray said monday that he'll run for a second term next year. four of his high-level aides have pleaded guilty to felonies, including two who receive
new jersey governor chris christie is forcefully denying that he's flipped his position on immigration. he ran his 2013 re-election campaign in support of legislation to provide instate tuition for young, undocumented students. the legislation commonly known as the dream act is about to be sent to his desk by the state legislature. but now, the governor says it goes too far and is refusing to sign it. on sunday, "the star ledger," new jersey's largest newspaper, accused christie of...
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immigration advocates want a budget deal so maybe they can move on from talking about immigration reform or talking about the farm bill, which is hugely important. we haven't really heard a lot about it. >> to your point, an interesting number, in paul ryan's original budget which everyone decried as incredibly conservative budget, the expected spending in 2014 was 1.09 trillion. we will end up with about $1 trillion if wets a deal, less than the original paul ryan budget. the debate has clearly been shifted. paul ryan had different assets delivering more to defense, nondiscretionary but clearly in a place where what we value as increased spending is relative to where we were incredibly low. >> robert, the president has been on a messaging campaign about fairness. his i thought great to osawatomie. >> potato potato. >> also an extension of the knox college speech in 2007. >> these are the themes, i think, of his presidency. also going into the second half of the second term and they couldn't come at a more important time. not only is the economy in a certain place, i think a lot of peopl
immigration advocates want a budget deal so maybe they can move on from talking about immigration reform or talking about the farm bill, which is hugely important. we haven't really heard a lot about it. >> to your point, an interesting number, in paul ryan's original budget which everyone decried as incredibly conservative budget, the expected spending in 2014 was 1.09 trillion. we will end up with about $1 trillion if wets a deal, less than the original paul ryan budget. the debate has...
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immigration does not look likely. >> 179 hours left. nice to see you. thanks. >>> coming up bill karins and richard lui will join us for "first buzz" a b.a.s.e. jumper's brush with death. >>> also miley cyrus brings remember wrecking ball to the jingle ball. we'll tell you all about it next. and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estimates for how much i'll pay. that helps me, and my guys, make better decisions. i don't like guesses with my business, and definitely not with our health. innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. mom? come in here. come in where? welcome to my mom cave. wow. sit down. you need some campbell's chunky soup before today's big game, new chunky cheeseburger. mmm. i love cheeseburgers. i know you do. when did you get this place? when i negotiated your new contract, it was part of the deal. cool. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. you may be mud
immigration does not look likely. >> 179 hours left. nice to see you. thanks. >>> coming up bill karins and richard lui will join us for "first buzz" a b.a.s.e. jumper's brush with death. >>> also miley cyrus brings remember wrecking ball to the jingle ball. we'll tell you all about it next. and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estimates...
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if you look at the complaints against obama and the delay with the immigration case and the delay in the mandate and the libya case which the republicans lot of and the carbon emissions case that went up to the circuit court, they lot of every single case in any court of law they tried using and lot of everything in a court of public opinion. >> for him to say he is going against it is settled by the stream court. you are going after conservative supreme court with the law of the land. >> it's the point that you get down to with republican opposition with the president. it's not the specifics, but the fact that he is attempting to use any powers of the president and isn't that what gets down to the feeling that a lot of minorities have about the basic disrespect for his ability to be president. >> absolutely. if you look at president bush, he won with 51% of the vote. he had swagger and said this is what i'm going to do and every member of congress was behind it. the president won almost a landslide election and the majority voted him in and every time he tries to negotiate anything,
if you look at the complaints against obama and the delay with the immigration case and the delay in the mandate and the libya case which the republicans lot of and the carbon emissions case that went up to the circuit court, they lot of every single case in any court of law they tried using and lot of everything in a court of public opinion. >> for him to say he is going against it is settled by the stream court. you are going after conservative supreme court with the law of the land....
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. >> first of all, this isn't comprehensive because it's excluding the undocumented immigrant and it's excluding the unborn baby, so we begin to bristle at that. and secondly we said, and wait a minute, we who are pretty -- we catholics who are kind of among the pros when it comes to providing health care do it because of our religious conviction and because of the dictates of our conscience and now we're being asked to violate some of those. so that's when we began to worry and drawback and say mr. president, please, you're really kind of -- you're really kind of pushing aside some of your greatest supporters here. >> congressman, as a catholic do you agree with that? the cardinal went on to say they have been on the front end of this, i think he threw out 1919, trying to get our government to take up what it means to have health care in this country. but do you think that catholic supporters are going to hear the cardinal there and say, you know what, maybe i don't think so highly of obama care. >> i just hope that all supporters of all faiths listen to the pope. i think he's the mos
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and i think the big missing piece this year is immigration reform. the senate passed a bill with bipartisan support a long time ago, and the house has just been messing around. it looks like boehner kind of wants to do it an it also looks like a lot of people in his conference don't want to do it. but on this budget deal we've been talking about, i think the conventional wisdom is wrong about this. i am happy they are focused on trying to undo some of the damage that the sequester is doing to the economic recovery rather than focusing on long-term deficit reduction. we'll have time for that. i think that's an elite concern. if you're out there unemployed right now, what you want is more economic growth so you can pay your renting and buy food. and i think this modest change in the sequester will help a little bit. but i also think they have to do unemployment insurance and i'm worried that they're not going to. >> i'm sure, lois, you heard what senator wicker had to say. for example, because there are a lot of republicans that are saying all of this
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. >>> structure, the 2014 budget, immigration reform, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, farm bill. and we have the brady background check, and there are other issues as well. >> so from now until the end of this session, i'll have the counter factual congress, minimum wage, farm bill, restoring food stamp cuts, expanding social security, extending unemployment insurance. every day we're going to take a look at a world in which republicans in congress want to do their job. tomorrow we will brick you the first installment, so tune in. ♪ the only downer? my bargain brand towel made a mess of things. so goodbye so-called bargain brands, hello bounty basic. the affordably priced towel that's an actual bargain. watch how one select-a-size sheet of bounty basic is 50% stronger than a full sheet of the bargain brand. it takes a strong towel to stretch a budget. bounty basic. the strong but affordable picker upper. and try charmin basic. the strong but affordable picker upper. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners i
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it's leaving so many people like immigrants and moms who are concerned about their children not being killed by guns twisting in the wind. >> debbie wasserman schultz, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. ♪ you know, ronny... folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? i'd say happier than a bodybuilder directing traffic. he does look happy. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. >>> a major new motion picture is bringing attention to military veterans. "lone survivor" is based on the real-life mission of s.e.a.l. team ten to capture and kill a taliban leader. when the team was ambushed by the enemy, they were forced to change their plan and stay and fight. >> they are unarmed prisoners. >> this is not a vote. this is what we're going to do. this op is compromised. we're going to cut them loose and we're going to make this peak. when we make this peak, you're going to get coms up. we're going to call for extract and we're going home. >> roger that, si
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immigration, gay rights, health care, inequality. republicans are on the wrong side of history once again. joining me now is karen finney. thanks for being here tonight. >> good to be with you. >> karen, this isn't ancient history. as recently as 2003, the right wing national review magazine was blasting mandela for his, quote, vicious anti-americanism. and his, quote, praise for terrorists. do these conservatives think we've just forgotten what they've said about mandela over the years? >> and i think they've all forgotten history. if i'm not mistaken, he was talking about the iraq war. there was some substance to that and he was not alone in some of the things he was talking about at that time. but as you said, now everybody wants to be on the right side of history. they don't want to talk about the times when gene kirkpatrick tried to block sanctions. >> now, it isn't only in history. last night rick santorum comparing the fight against apartheid with the fight against obama care. and when you see things like this and you look at
immigration, gay rights, health care, inequality. republicans are on the wrong side of history once again. joining me now is karen finney. thanks for being here tonight. >> good to be with you. >> karen, this isn't ancient history. as recently as 2003, the right wing national review magazine was blasting mandela for his, quote, vicious anti-americanism. and his, quote, praise for terrorists. do these conservatives think we've just forgotten what they've said about mandela over the...